Stockfish Ruins Another Chess Puzzle πŸ€¦πŸ½β€β™‚οΈ

Puzzle FEN:
n3N3/3K3k/6R1/6P1/8/8/8/6r1 w – – 0 1

Puzzle Details:
Gorgiev, 1956

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  1. Not only Stockfish could find these other solutions. Looking at the 7 pieces Tablebase would have told us the same…….

  2. The only reason I found Nd7 was because I was just looking for the most ridiculous move. LolπŸ˜‚


  4. I found Nd7, but only because you said it was a crazy move and it was the first crazy move I could think of

  5. Got a challenge for you. Pacifist chess. Can you beat Martin without ever capturing any pieces? (Not sure if you’ve done this, but sounds like it would be fun to watch)

  6. Stockfish is like that one kid in school who reads ahead the textbook

  7. I must be a robot cuz that king move was my first thought

  8. I found Nd7 almost immediately, actually when you were showing the winning line for the first time at around 2:46

  9. Well if you put Stockfish on like depth 10 it's clear it won't

  10. I actually saw the Rg7 Kh8 Ke7 line and assumed that was the intended solution.

    The mating pattern with the knight on f6 and the king on h8 is too strong to avoid, you have to sac the rook and rook + 1 vs knight in the corner is an easy win

  11. Whats crazy is that i didnt see the pawn raise move, i thought the best move was to move the king

  12. I actually saw the move stockfish had for the right reason. Im proud of myself

  13. 2. (g6 Nb6+ 3. Ke7 Nd5+ 4. Kf7 Nf6 5. Rg8+) mate in 4 for white

  14. 5:27
    Found it
    As a 450, obviously I can find blunders.
    (Actually I’m unranked, about 800 now)

  15. I actually found Knight c7 by asking myself what looks to be the biggest blunder in that position and I was correctπŸ˜‚
    Edit: I somehow through a miracle also predicted king e7 lol

  16. Endgametable base no stockfish was only 7 piece

  17. What if from the position at 1:54:
    black rook to e1+
    The point is if the white king stays next to its Knight the black rook can take the knight, and if the king takes the rook then the other king can take the white rook and its a draw. It'd be a draw because the white king can't defend the pawn and so the black king would just take the pawn on the next turn leaving just the lone white king against the black king and knight.
    I don't know what would happen if the white king doesn't take the rook.

  18. I found the move that refutes it, but I don't feel like I can really take credit. Just from your explanation of the intended line I knew it had to be that move.
    You emphasized both that the square the knife is controlling was important, and that taking the knight drew the game, so that move immediately jumped out to me when you told us the position the move was in.

  19. 2:49 The knight plays C8 not D5 .. stalemate after rook takes ROOK!! etc

  20. No way I found that move I was so surprisedπŸŽ‰

  21. My intuition says Nd7 but not by precise calculation

  22. "Stockfish ruins another chess puzzle"
    Alternative title: "Stockfish mourns Mittens in the only way it ever can"

  23. I found the king move instead of the main line at the start – lol. The smothered pawn mate was cool, though.

  24. Just noticed something. The wooden chess set I had as a kid never had more than one queen per side so if you promoted a pawn you would not be able to represent it properly. β™Ÿ
    Not a problem with digital boards but I wonder how people solved this before the 1980s? πŸ€”

  25. At 7:21 instead of R f1 check, what if R takes Knight on e8?

  26. I imagine Stockfish seeing any puzzle that was solved by humans and be like β€œWell actually β˜οΈπŸ€“β€

  27. Saw Ke7 before you even played g6, and …Nd7 before you played …Nd5+. Not very difficult, the composer did a poor job.

  28. How's king e7 winning if the rook can take the knight

  29. Black is also drawn in the end of the main line as long as they don't play nf6

  30. I haven't played chess in 100 years and I was never more than average. But I love this channel! You really do a nice job at presenting these ideas.

  31. is it possible to beat martin with only Book move, Great move, and Brilliant move?

  32. So that means I found the stockfish AND the intended move!!!!

  33. When I first seen it thought win for white. Pretty much always right. When see an over all of board. Whether it’s a win for white, black or draw.

    But don’t and struggle to fine winning move. Was thinking Rock to F7, but more a think about it. King to E7 would make more sense

  34. 7:10 I was thinking Ke7 the whole game because i thought that he could repetitive check and/or sac a knight and rook to get stalemate

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