A rather odd puzzle!

This position doesn’t look natural to me but it has some interesting ideas. How can white win from here?

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30 Comments

  1. The first move is only obvious because you have already shared that this is a winning game. Without that info, many players would probably choose to draw here

  2. Nf6 was not hard to find it was Nh7 that I did not see in advance,

  3. I solved this one completely, but it took awhile to find the sham sacrifice. There are cool variations that don't quite work. I finally looked at the ideal position for the knight to protect both himself and the pawn, while they wait for the distant king to get involved. I saw the h7 and f8 pairing and worked backwards to the sham sacrifice.

  4. A nonsense puzzle as struggling to see how black’s king got to where it was at the start. The only feasible reason is it was attacked on h7 by white’s pawn – but why not just take the pawn?

  5. Me – with 12 seconds remaining on the clock.

  6. This might be an impossible position. What was black's last move? It can only have been King takes on H8. But then what was the piece captured? It cannot be a rook or queen as black would have been in check. It cannot be whites dark squared bishop because it had no way to get there. White's last move had to be knight on F7 takes black's queen, or rook on H8.

  7. This position can never arise.
    What was the last position of black king?
    It can't be g8, as there was a check there, and had the black king last position, h 7, he would have taken the pawn instead of going to h8.

    So the given situation will never arive.

  8. The game is already won. The King cannot move into check. And Black's pawn cannot move.

  9. Black is already checkmated as any move leads to defeat. I guess everyone I’ve played chess with around the world has been playing the game incorrectly then. Bizarre.

  10. Bg8 was obvious – as it is the only move that DOESN'T stalemate.

  11. How did they even get in this position? I can't figure that out.

  12. The real question is, what was Black's previous move?

  13. The video: "This is a winning position for white"
    The comment section: "Well duh, black can't move!"
    Me, 1300 Rapid: "Ah, so the first move is Bg8 to avoid stalemate."

  14. This is easy. White moves knight to anywhere. Black cannot move pawn, so must move king. King has no legal moves, as it either goes in check by whites pawn, or check by whites bishop.

  15. Why show a question next to an already won match on the screen ?
    I was like, this is stupid, it's already won.

    Turns out it was stupid for another reason

  16. Cute puzzle, but (almost) impossible to achieve this position. If last turn was black's, the only possible move was Kh7-h8 as the bishop had to have been on that diagonal already. Meaning the previous white move was Pg6-g7 check.

    So if black is playing for stalemate, the previous move should have been Kg7 to take the pawn and unblock his own pawn.

    Thus advancing his pawn down the board, forcing white to sacrifice either piece to prevent queen promotion and resulting in a piece combo whereby white is unable to achieve mate.

    I would score Kh8 as ??. A blunder.

  17. As a matter of interest, we know the previous moves for white and black in the diagram. White played Nf4-h8+. It must be a discovery, as the bishop cannot come from another diagonal. But the discovered piece must disappear. …Kg8xh8, and we have the starting position.

  18. The way the knight plays keep away at the end is pretty amusing.

  19. Its not much of a puzzle. The first move is forced due to the title of the video. Then, just work it from there. If you had said, Is this a draw? Or something where there is doubt, better.

  20. The bishop move is obvious. Instead of the knight move I used the king along the diagonal for 4 moves. The black king is a tempo behind and cannot get the opposition to attack white's pawn.once the black king is separated from the black pawn it's game over.

  21. Just with the thumbnail… A2B to F7? Seems the most logical action with no play against whatsoever…

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